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	<title>Comments on: Post the Chicken</title>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://zipymonkey.com/blog/2005/08/03/post-the-chicken/#comment-147</link>
		<author>Al</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2005 06:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not so much about what you wrote; its about what that guy that wrote that article,â€¦um...wrote. 

He implies that simply disappearing in shame because you don't like or can't handle your job is nobler than mustering the courage and telling your boss you'd like to quit.

&lt;EM&gt;When a Japanese enters a company, they are expected to be a part of a team â€“ a part of a "family."&lt;/EM&gt;

A family is there to nurture and protect you, not abuse and exploit you â€“ this isnâ€™t an American vs. Japanese culture shit, this is true world round.  A Japanese company wouldnâ€™t hesitate to kick your ass to the curb if it needed to.  Itâ€™s not a matter of feelings and expectations itâ€™s a matter of meeting or exceeding the companyâ€™s bottom line.  There is no â€œheartâ€ in a company that treats its employees with no holidays, while working 18-hour days, 7 days a week. And there is no â€œbottom lineâ€ when it comes to a family.

&lt;EM&gt;â€¦it becomes a question of disgrace and dishonor to quit that company. Until the time they decided to quit â€“ regardless of whether or not their reasons for doing so were valid â€“ they worked hand-in-hand with their co-workers and seniors. They built trust. To quit would mean to break that trust. Their co-workers might feel betrayed. Their boss, who was undoubtedly their benefactor, would definitely feel that the young worker had been disloyal.

â€¦but I wonder if this isnâ€™t a more mature and adult way than the road some Americans choose when leaving their jobs and burning their bridges just as much, if not more, than the Japanese do.&lt;/EM&gt;

Yeahâ€¦I agreeâ€¦its better to disappoint and worry everyone in both of your families (work and biological) rather than just your cold, uncaring, oppressive work â€œfamilyâ€.  Loyalty is earned and not commanded or simply expected.  Sacrificing your entire life, your connections with friends and family, because you let your company down - when they really couldnâ€™t care less about you and will easily replace you, just seems foolish.

Mike you say youâ€™ve been working more now then ever.  Do you feel more secure in your company?  Do you think youâ€™re free from a mass layoff?  Does your company feel like a family?

Yup, we Americans are lazy, crude, and make light of serious things like work.  We sing song about how much we canâ€™t stand working.  â€œTake This Job And Shove It,â€ indeed.  Perhaps one day weâ€™ll take work seriously like the Japanese doâ€¦until then &lt;a HREF="http://geminga.it.nuigalway.ie/~9934150u/stuff/yattalyrics.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yatta&lt;/A&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not so much about what you wrote; its about what that guy that wrote that article,â€¦um&#8230;wrote. </p>
<p>He implies that simply disappearing in shame because you don&#8217;t like or can&#8217;t handle your job is nobler than mustering the courage and telling your boss you&#8217;d like to quit.</p>
<p><em>When a Japanese enters a company, they are expected to be a part of a team â€“ a part of a &#8220;family.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>A family is there to nurture and protect you, not abuse and exploit you â€“ this isnâ€™t an American vs. Japanese culture shit, this is true world round.  A Japanese company wouldnâ€™t hesitate to kick your ass to the curb if it needed to.  Itâ€™s not a matter of feelings and expectations itâ€™s a matter of meeting or exceeding the companyâ€™s bottom line.  There is no â€œheartâ€ in a company that treats its employees with no holidays, while working 18-hour days, 7 days a week. And there is no â€œbottom lineâ€ when it comes to a family.</p>
<p><em>â€¦it becomes a question of disgrace and dishonor to quit that company. Until the time they decided to quit â€“ regardless of whether or not their reasons for doing so were valid â€“ they worked hand-in-hand with their co-workers and seniors. They built trust. To quit would mean to break that trust. Their co-workers might feel betrayed. Their boss, who was undoubtedly their benefactor, would definitely feel that the young worker had been disloyal.</p>
<p>â€¦but I wonder if this isnâ€™t a more mature and adult way than the road some Americans choose when leaving their jobs and burning their bridges just as much, if not more, than the Japanese do.</em></p>
<p>Yeahâ€¦I agreeâ€¦its better to disappoint and worry everyone in both of your families (work and biological) rather than just your cold, uncaring, oppressive work â€œfamilyâ€.  Loyalty is earned and not commanded or simply expected.  Sacrificing your entire life, your connections with friends and family, because you let your company down - when they really couldnâ€™t care less about you and will easily replace you, just seems foolish.</p>
<p>Mike you say youâ€™ve been working more now then ever.  Do you feel more secure in your company?  Do you think youâ€™re free from a mass layoff?  Does your company feel like a family?</p>
<p>Yup, we Americans are lazy, crude, and make light of serious things like work.  We sing song about how much we canâ€™t stand working.  â€œTake This Job And Shove It,â€ indeed.  Perhaps one day weâ€™ll take work seriously like the Japanese doâ€¦until then <a href="http://geminga.it.nuigalway.ie/~9934150u/stuff/yattalyrics.html" rel="nofollow" class="liexternal">Yatta</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Z. Monkey</title>
		<link>http://zipymonkey.com/blog/2005/08/03/post-the-chicken/#comment-146</link>
		<author>Z. Monkey</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zipymonkey.com/blog/2005/08/03/post-the-chicken/#comment-146</guid>
		<description>I can imagine many things about what I wrote that would make you mad, but I need particulars if we are to have a constructive conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can imagine many things about what I wrote that would make you mad, but I need particulars if we are to have a constructive conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://zipymonkey.com/blog/2005/08/03/post-the-chicken/#comment-145</link>
		<author>Al</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zipymonkey.com/blog/2005/08/03/post-the-chicken/#comment-145</guid>
		<description>Wow...that article really makes me mad.

Too bad I've got problems communicating my ideas/feelings/emotions in textual formats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;that article really makes me mad.</p>
<p>Too bad I&#8217;ve got problems communicating my ideas/feelings/emotions in textual formats.</p>
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